sssttt 发表于 2018-1-13 16:49
楼主好~最近也在研究这个treaty的问题~认真看了两个你写的帖子后（灰常有用！！）

有一个疑问 关于F1 no ...

21楼和25楼那段条款是说你不能"claim not to be a U.S. resident"，不是说你不能claim treaty，所以并不矛盾，是可以用treaty的。尤其是P519后边举例的时候写了 "the treaty exemption will continue to apply if .. you meet the requirements ... even if you are a nonresident alien electing to file a joint return as explained in chapter 1". (Chapter 9. Tax Treaty Benefits, Students, Apprentices, Trainees, Teachers, Professors, and Researchers Who Became Resident Aliens)

换句话说，中美treaty允许你成为resident之后继续使用。

问一下，用turbo tax 报了税，也填了-5000的treaty， 是不是还需要下载8833表格，然后邮寄？邮寄到哪？是给turbo tax 还是邮寄给美国官方？谢谢

sssttt 发表于 2018-1-13 16:49
楼主好~最近也在研究这个treaty的问题~认真看了两个你写的帖子后（灰常有用！！）

有一个疑问 关于F1 no ...

我和你有一样的疑问~

caiwade 发表于 2016-2-2 12:03
If you make this choice, you and yourspouse are treated for income tax purposes asresidents for yo ...

楼主好~最近也在研究这个treaty的问题~认真看了两个你写的帖子后（灰常有用！！）

有一个疑问 关于F1 non resident，married, 配偶是H1B这种情况，如果married file jointly可否用treaty, 在14年的这个帖子里，你回复说treaty 可以用http://www.moonbbs.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=741195&highlight=H1%E5%92%8CF1%E7%BB%93%E5%A9%9A%E8%81%94%E5%90%88%E6%8A%A5%E7%A8%8E


但是在本帖里面回复20楼和24楼，我理解你贴的那段话的意思是married file jointly 是不能claim treaty.....
想讨论一下哪个是正确的……望回复啊蟹蟹！！！！！

Myuan21 发表于 2016-12-7 10:12
请问楼主这个treaty是只有中国国籍才可以用吗？
如果有这个list 请问哪里可以找得到？最近在看这方面的信息 ...

每个国家不一样的，在这里：
https://www.irs.gov/businesses/international-businesses/united-states-income-tax-treaties-a-to-z

请问楼主这个treaty是只有中国国籍才可以用吗？
如果有这个list 请问哪里可以找得到？最近在看这方面的信息 可是IRS.com上没有找到这个list

caiwade 发表于 2016-2-2 12:03
If you make this choice, you and yourspouse are treated for income tax purposes asresidents for yo ...

Thanks!

CreditAdvance 发表于 2016-2-2 11:44
不知道能不能夫妻一方H1B，一方F1，file jointly 然后H1B的claim itemized deduction, F1的claim treaty? ...

If you make this choice, you and yourspouse are treated for income tax purposes asresidents for your entire tax year. Neither younor your spouse can claim under any tax treatynot to be a U.S. resident. You are both taxed onworldwide income.

Pub 519 Page 9

熊吉_KUMA 发表于 2015-2-4 21:54
ARTICLE 20
(Students and Trainees)
A student, business apprentice or trainee who is, or was immedia ...

不知道能不能夫妻一方H1B，一方F1，file jointly 然后H1B的claim itemized deduction, F1的claim treaty?

renzhe2007 发表于 2015-12-23 09:20
请问楼主 如果F1超过五年，报税是resident alien，那么可以同时享受5000的treaty和6200的standard deductio ...

Mr. Yu, a citizen of the People's Republic of China, entered the United States as a nonresident alien student on January 1, 2009. He remained a nonresident alien through 2013 and was able to exclude his scholarship from U.S. tax in those years under Article 20 of the U.S.-People's Republic of China income tax treaty. On January 1, 2014, he became a resident alien under the substantial presence test because his stay in the United States exceeded 5 years. Even though Mr. Yu is now a resident alien, the provisions of Article 20 still apply because of the exception to the saving clause in paragraph 2 of the Protocol to the U.S.-People's Republic of China treaty dated April 30, 1984. Mr. Yu should submit Form W-9 and the required statement to the payor.


你要仔细读呀。。

请问楼主 如果F1超过五年，报税是resident alien，那么可以同时享受5000的treaty和6200的standard deduction吗？多谢了

virgobear 发表于 2015-8-31 11:04
版主 我还是想问一下 2014年 OPT 转 H1B，file extension之后用first year choice claim RA. File joint  ...

Nonresident Spouse Treated as a Resident

If, at the end of your tax year, you are married and one spouse is a U.S. citizen or a resident alien and the other spouse is a nonresident alien, you can choose to treat the nonresident spouse as a U.S. resident. This includes situations in which one spouse is a nonresident alien at the beginning of the tax year, but a resident alien at the end of the year, and the other spouse is a nonresident alien at the end of the year.

If you make this choice, you and your spouse are treated for income tax purposes as residents for your entire tax year. Neither you nor your spouse can claim under any tax treaty not to be a U.S. resident. You are both taxed on worldwide income. You must file a joint income tax return for the year you make the choice, but you and your spouse can file joint or separate returns in later years.

caiwade 发表于 2015-5-17 14:48
那个叫standard deduction，可以这么理解吧。。

版主 我还是想问一下 2014年 OPT 转 H1B，file extension之后用first year choice claim RA. File joint return， 老婆14年opt，未抽中后7月回国 。现在状态下我们还可以都用5000 的treaty吗？ 还是都不能用？ 谢谢

dazi 发表于 2015-5-17 07:21
就是超过5年的F1 免税额变成6200了吗

那个叫standard deduction，可以这么理解吧。。