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[工作职场] internship 没有CPT authorization

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发表于 2018-3-14 19:07:26 来自手机 | 只看该作者
unpaid要申请CPT的吧?
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匿名  发表于 2018-3-14 19:56:20
匿名者 发表于 2018-3-14 18:53
说都这么说 unpaid 公司不要求你不申请也根本没法查

所以还是看你lucky 不lucky 不过万一被查出来就没身份了
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匿名  发表于 2018-3-14 21:11:04
匿名者 发表于 2018-3-14 18:52
志愿者不可以 理论上工作必须申请cpt 不申请不pay的原理是没有记录可以查 所以不pay一般就不申请了 确实正 ...

诶,看来网民大部分都是愚昧自以为是,网上多数人给出的答案均不加思考,大部分是以讹传讹,又或是道听途说,极少自己考证,上网来问问题不如自己找吧lz

志愿者和unpaid intern 是有区别的知道吗?

Volunteering and Unpaid Internships for F-1 and J-1 Students Prior to Graduation
There is a difference between volunteering and engaging in an unpaid internship.

Volunteering refers to donating time with an organization whose primary purpose is charitable or humanitarian in nature, without remuneration or any other type of compensation. So for example, it would be OK to tutor in East Palo, or donate time with the American Red Cross. F-1 students are free to engage in volunteer work as long as it meets the above criteria.

Unpaid internships, on the other hand, do not usually qualify as “volunteer” work. Internships, both paid and unpaid, are primarily offered by the private sector and related to the intern’s major field of study. The U.S. Department of Labor has guidelines for those seeking an unpaid internship.

Six criteria for an unpaid internship must be met:

The internship, even though it includes actual operation on the facilities of the employer, is similar to training which would be given in an educational environment;
The internship experience is for the benefit of the intern;
The intern does not displace regular employees, but works under close supervision of existing staff;
The employer that provides the training derives no immediate advantage from the activities of the intern; and on occasion its operations may actually be impeded;
The intern is not necessarily entitled to a job at the conclusion of the internship; and
The employer and the intern understand that the intern is not entitled to wages for the time spent in the internship/
Additional requirements apply to F-1 and J-1 students:

The internship has to be in the declared major field of study.
The internship cannot be for more than 20 hours a week during term time (those students with a 50% assistantship will not be eligible for the internship opportunity).
Any remuneration or any other type of compensation at all requires F-1 students to receive either CPT or OPT work authorization and J-1 students must apply for Academic Training.
F-1 students cannot be retroactively remunerated or in any way compensated for work done in an unpaid internship if they subsequently obtain work authorization.
We recommend that if you are engaging in an unpaid internship off -campus that you consider using Curricular Practical Training,  Pre-Completion Optional Practical Training, or Academic Training (J-1 students).

Please ensure that your prospective supervisor is aware of these federal regulations and that you have assurances (preferably written) to that effect before you accept the position. We also recommend that F-1 students who do engage in unpaid internships have a letter from their academic advisor confirming that the internship is in the major field of study, and a letter from the employer confirming that there was no remuneration or any other type of compensation provided in any form during the (aforementioned) dates the student was participating in the internship.

Bechtel International Center recommends that F-1 and J-1 students seeking to engage in an unpaid internship attend one of the employment sessions to discuss the appropriateness, consequences and responsibilities of this internship. Students may also contact internationalstudents@stanford.edu with specific questions relating to unpaid internships.
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匿名  发表于 2018-3-14 21:13:23
匿名者 发表于 2018-3-14 18:52
志愿者不可以 理论上工作必须申请cpt 不申请不pay的原理是没有记录可以查 所以不pay一般就不申请了 确实正 ...

政策类的问题大部分网民是以讹传诶,道听途说,又或是自以为是,极少能自己查证,人云亦云,所以问大家不如自己去查,来论坛只能问人文类问题

Volunteering and Unpaid Internships for F-1 and J-1 Students Prior to Graduation
There is a difference between volunteering and engaging in an unpaid internship.

Volunteering refers to donating time with an organization whose primary purpose is charitable or humanitarian in nature, without remuneration or any other type of compensation. So for example, it would be OK to tutor in East Palo, or donate time with the American Red Cross. F-1 students are free to engage in volunteer work as long as it meets the above criteria.

Unpaid internships, on the other hand, do not usually qualify as “volunteer” work. Internships, both paid and unpaid, are primarily offered by the private sector and related to the intern’s major field of study. The U.S. Department of Labor has guidelines for those seeking an unpaid internship.

Six criteria for an unpaid internship must be met:

The internship, even though it includes actual operation on the facilities of the employer, is similar to training which would be given in an educational environment;
The internship experience is for the benefit of the intern;
The intern does not displace regular employees, but works under close supervision of existing staff;
The employer that provides the training derives no immediate advantage from the activities of the intern; and on occasion its operations may actually be impeded;
The intern is not necessarily entitled to a job at the conclusion of the internship; and
The employer and the intern understand that the intern is not entitled to wages for the time spent in the internship/
Additional requirements apply to F-1 and J-1 students:

The internship has to be in the declared major field of study.
The internship cannot be for more than 20 hours a week during term time (those students with a 50% assistantship will not be eligible for the internship opportunity).
Any remuneration or any other type of compensation at all requires F-1 students to receive either CPT or OPT work authorization and J-1 students must apply for Academic Training.
F-1 students cannot be retroactively remunerated or in any way compensated for work done in an unpaid internship if they subsequently obtain work authorization.
We recommend that if you are engaging in an unpaid internship off -campus that you consider using Curricular Practical Training,  Pre-Completion Optional Practical Training, or Academic Training (J-1 students).

Please ensure that your prospective supervisor is aware of these federal regulations and that you have assurances (preferably written) to that effect before you accept the position. We also recommend that F-1 students who do engage in unpaid internships have a letter from their academic advisor confirming that the internship is in the major field of study, and a letter from the employer confirming that there was no remuneration or any other type of compensation provided in any form during the (aforementioned) dates the student was participating in the internship.

Bechtel International Center recommends that F-1 and J-1 students seeking to engage in an unpaid internship attend one of the employment sessions to discuss the appropriateness, consequences and responsibilities of this internship. Students may also contact internationalstudents@stanford.edu with specific questions relating to unpaid internships.
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匿名  发表于 2018-3-15 16:24:41
匿名者 发表于 2018-3-14 21:11
诶,看来网民大部分都是愚昧自以为是,网上多数人给出的答案均不加思考,大部分是以讹传讹,又或是道听途说 ...

每个人学校规定不一样吧 而且我这里说的志愿者不是指那种去什么保护组织养老院做义工帮助个小动物那种志愿者,而是说我去某公司上班,因为公司不给我pay 就以志愿者的名义帮公司做事,这种情况我专门打电话去问过我们学校的issc 答案是必须注册cpt 显而易见前一种志愿者有脑子的人都该知道不用申请cpt吧 回答问题就回答问题 不知道哪里来的优越感
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匿名  发表于 2018-3-15 18:20:03
匿名者 发表于 2018-3-15 16:24
每个人学校规定不一样吧 而且我这里说的志愿者不是指那种去什么保护组织养老院做义工帮助个小动物那种志愿 ...

好好看你回复

我指的就是志愿者

你回复说什么志愿者不可以


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匿名  发表于 2018-3-15 19:52:34
匿名者 发表于 2018-3-15 18:20
好好看你回复

我指的就是志愿者

同学,你自己搞清楚,我们一般说的广义志愿者指去一些保护福利机构什么做义工,这种显而易见是不需要cpt的,但是在找工作过程中,我们一般说的志愿者,指的是,因为只要做intern就要申请cpt交学费,无论paid还是unpaid(这个可能因学校而异,因为我们学校是一律要求都必须申请的,但是我听说nyu unpaid可以不用申请)有些人就觉得unpaid intern申请cpt好亏因为不赚钱还要倒贴钱,所以就希望跟公司协商,不要把我算做intern,算作志愿者来给你们公司帮忙,这样子我就可以合理合法的不申请cpt了,我所回答的志愿者必须申请cpt 指的就是这种情况,我跟学校issc确认过这样子必须申请,做保护机构义工那种申请cpt你在搞笑么,谁都知道肯定不需要申请啊大哥,cpt针对的是专业领域相关的实习好吗?谁会开个贴问那种广义真正志愿者要不要申cpt?我们说工作时候问志愿者要不要申都是说这种狭义的做专业相关的unpaid工作好吗?你看看你的回复好么,你找的志愿者的那些东西跟我说的志愿者完全两个东西好吗?你热心你去给楼主科普呀,一副众人皆醉我独醒的样子在搞笑么
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匿名  发表于 2018-3-15 19:55:47
匿名者 发表于 2018-3-15 18:20
好好看你回复

我指的就是志愿者

sorry我今天心情不太好 口气有点不好不是冲你
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匿名  发表于 2018-3-15 19:56:52
匿名者 发表于 2018-3-15 18:20
好好看你回复

我指的就是志愿者

sorry我今天心情不太好 口气有点不好不是冲你
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